Agenda and minutes

Safer, Cleaner, Greener Scrutiny Panel - Thursday 7th April 2011 7.30 pm

Venue: Committee Room 1, Civic Offices, High Street, Epping. View directions

Contact: Adrian Hendry, Office of the Chief Executive  email:  ahendry@eppingforestdc.gov.uk Tel: 01992 564246

Items
No. Item

50.

Substitute Members (Council Minute 39 - 23.7.02)

(Assistant to the Chief Executive)  To report the appointment of any substitute members for the meeting.

Minutes:

The Panel noted there were no substitute members.

51.

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

(Assistant to the Chief Executive). To declare interests in any items on the agenda.

 

In considering whether to declare a personal or a prejudicial interest under the Code of Conduct, Overview & Scrutiny members are asked pay particular attention to paragraph 11 of the Code in addition to the more familiar requirements.

 

This requires the declaration of a personal and prejudicial interest in any matter before an OS Committee which relates to a decision of or action by another Committee or Sub Committee of the Council, a Joint Committee or Joint Sub Committee in which the Council is involved and of which the Councillor is also a member.

 

Paragraph 11 does not refer to Cabinet decisions or attendance at an OS meeting purely for the purpose of answering questions or providing information on such a matter.

Minutes:

No declarations of interest were made.

52.

Minutes of the last meeting pdf icon PDF 40 KB

To agree the notes of the last meeting held on 8 March 2011.

Minutes:

The notes from the 8 March 2011 meeting were agreed as a correct record.

 

The Portfolio Holder, Safer and Greener, Councillor Mrs Smith, asked the meeting how they wished to conduct future Crime and Disorder meetings. Did they wish to receive written reports or presentations from officers. The Panel agreed that they continue with a combination of written reports and oral presentations so that members could receive information in the most appropriate format.

53.

Terms of Reference and Work Programme pdf icon PDF 71 KB

(Chairman / Lead Officer) The Overview and Scrutiny Committee has agreed the Terms of Reference of this Panel and associated Work Programme. This is attached. The Panel are asked at each meeting to review both documents.

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Panel noted their Terms of Reference and Work programme.

54.

Police and Crime Commissioners pdf icon PDF 67 KB

(Director Environment and Street Scene)To consider the attached report.

 

Minutes:

Caroline Wiggins, the Safer Communities Manager, introduced the report on the proposed Police and Crime Commissioners. From 2012, regional Police and Crime Commissioners (PCC) are to be elected in all areas other than the Metropolitan and the City of London Police.  They will have the power to appoint, suspend or dismiss Chief Constables. They will issue a Police and Crime Plan, setting out police and crime reduction objectives, set the forces budget, issue precepts and produce an annual report on progress against police and crime objectives.

 

The Panel noted that:

  • The office of PCC will have its own legal personality distinct from the person holding the post;
  • In that capacity it will own property, employ staff and make contracts;
  • Each PCC will be supported by a team of at least 2 paid (publically funded) staff;
  • Election will be held in 2012 and then every 4 years;
  • The PCC will appoint a Police and Crime Panel and each local authority in the Police area will be represented on that Panel (usually the Safer Greener (or equivalent) Portfolio Holder);
  • In a force area with more than one local authority, there will be a joint committee, consisting of at least 10 members appointed from the local authorities and 2 co-opted members appointed by the panel itself;
  • The Panel would scrutinise decisions made by the PCC and could veto appointments, suspension or dismissal of a Chief Constable and police budget;
  • They would also ensure the PCC’s annual report, policing plan and any Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary reports are shared with local authorities;
  • The PCC will not be an alternative to the current Community Safety Partnerships (CSP); and
  • PCCs are not to be statutory partner of the CSPs.

 

Councillor Spencer asked if any doubts had been expressed about this new system? Mrs Wiggins replied that as far as the Home Officer were concerned this was going to happen. However, concerns were raised by officers over the wide area that each PCC would cover. The local one would cover all of Essex and they would get all the budgets; leaving local areas without any local funding for local schemes.

 

Councillor Jacobs stated he had more faith in current officers, such as the CSP, than in the new proposed PCC. Would the CSP still be in existence? Mrs Wiggins said that they would still be there, reporting back to this Scrutiny Panel.

 

Councillor Pond asked what was the difference between a Police and Crime Panel and a Joint Crime Committee.  Mrs Wiggins replied that in a joint committee, consisting of a number of local authorities, would have to agree any proposals they made to the PCC.

 

Councillor Pond then asked if Police Authorities were being disbanded. She was told that they were, in May 2012 and their Budget would be handed over the new PCC.

 

The Panel noted that there was a consultation on the proposed PCC last year and it seemed that the  various concerns raised were largely ignored by the Home Office.

 

Councillor  ...  view the full minutes text for item 54.

55.

Home Office Consultation - "More effective response to Anti-Social Behaviour" pdf icon PDF 73 KB

(Director Environment and Street Scene)To consider the attached report.

 

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Paul Gardener, the Safer Communities Officer introduced the report on the Home Office consultation on more effective responses to anti-social behaviour. They were looking to open up current legislation and bring it under one umbrella act. The Panel noted that the consultation period ran up to 3 May 2011 and that this Panel’s response would be reported to the Overview and Scrutiny Committee on 11 April.

 

The consultation document was divided up into six parts:

(1)  The Criminal Behaviour Order – this will be a civil order available on conviction for any criminal offence, similar to an ASBO. Maximum penalty for breach proposed is 5 years imprisonment;

(2)  The Crime Prevention Injunction – this is a civil order of proof (balance of probabilities) making it easier to obtain. These two new powers are intended to replace the existing Anti-Social Behaviour Orders;

(3)  The Community Protection Order (CPO) – available to police and local authorities to restrict the use of a place or close a premises linked with persistent ASB;

(4)  Police Direction Power – this allows police to direct any individual causing or likely to cause crime and disorder away from a particular place and confiscate relevant items. If this came in, officers would like PCSOs to have the power of arrest to enable them to have a credible alternative when asking people to move on;

(5)  Informal tools and out of court disposals – the Home Office were exploring more community engagement to enhance the restorative approach, for example by introducing Acceptable Behaviour Contracts Panels chaired by trained local volunteers; and

(6)  The Community Trigger – this will be a new power given to local residents to ensure ASB is being dealt with by the relevant authorities in their area.

 

These were summarised in the report and the officers draft responses were attached as an appendix.

 

Councillor Spencer asked if the new ASBO system would mean more court cases. He was told it would not as it would be directed to a persistent offender, which they would try and get to before it went to court.

 

Councillor Spencer then asked if the power of citizen’s arrest did exist and was told that it did. Councillor Jacobs agreed with officers that PCSO needed the power of arrest.

 

Councillor Smith referring to the informal tools and out of court disposals proposals thought the public would be asked to play a greater role, but how would local authorities play a part in this. Mr Gardener said it was designed to look at community punishments (also known as restorative justice). It was looking to empower local people to impose local punishments and to help keep young people out of the criminal justice system.

 

Councillor Smith asked if the proposed panels would sit under the police side or the local authority side. She was told that it would be a partnership, possibly in conjunction with the Restorative Justice Team in Essex and the Youth Offending Team. It would all tie up with the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 55.

56.

Minutes from the Green Corporate Working Party and the Green Infrastructure Working Group pdf icon PDF 83 KB

(Director of Planning and Economic Development) Attached are the minutes from the Green Corporate Working Party (GCWP) and the Green Infrastructure Working Group (GIWG) for the Panel’s information:

 

GCWP Minutes for 17 August 2010; 1st October 2010; 21 December 2010 and 3rd February 2011.

 

GIWG Minutes for 30 July 2010 and 1st December 2010.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Panel noted:

  • the minutes of the Green Corporate Working Party for 17 August 2010, 1st October 2010, 21 December 2010 and 3rd February 2011; and
  • the minutes of the Green Infrastructure Working Group for 30 July 2010 and 1st December 2010.

 

 

RESOLVED:

 

That the minutes for the Green Corporate Working Party and the Green Infrastructure Working Group be noted.

57.

Reports to be made to the next meeting of the Overview and Scrutiny Committee

To consider which reports are ready to be submitted to the Overview and Scrutiny Committee at its next meeting.

 

Minutes:

To report back to the Overview and Scrutiny Committee on the Police and Crime Commissioners report and the Home Office consultation document “more effective response to anti-social behaviour”.